Spider-Man leaves the MCU? What? You know when I was gonna write about the Soundwave I got yesterday. Then the wholes lot of issues I have with the Walmart G1 Reissues. However, this is even bigger as I’m sure you’ve already read all about it on Facebook, YouTube, and social media. Spider-man is leaving the MCU because Sony and Disney can’t get their crap together.
Looking back and thinking about it. Spider-Man leaving the MCU isn’t a shock to me. It’s not a shock as I kind of figured that one of them was gonna get money hungry. In the end, really it only really comes down to money and Spider-man just makes too much money. But the big question stands.
Spider-Man Leaves the MCU?!
The report is that Disney by the deal that they had with Sony to share the rights of Spider-Man in the MCU. This deal which included Spider-Man appearing in 3 Marvel/Disney made films. Then two solo films which would be 100% done by Sony. From my understanding and what’s been released to the public is this. All the money made by the three Disney produce films with 100% to Disney; Sony got nothing. On the flip, Sony would produce the two solo films but give up the first 5% to Disney.
Because of this deal, Disney has been reported to offer a new deal going forward for 50/50 deal which point Disney would put forward 50% of the cost for all future Spider-Man films taking more than just 5% in earning. So let’s talk about why this is a bad move on Disney to offer this and why it was a good thing for Sony to say no.
Sony doesn’t want to lose Spider-Man
Let’s be real, while I like parts of the original Spider-Man Trilogy, for the most part, I disliked it. Mainly the last film and parts of the 2nd film. That being said, when you look at everything Sony has done, their biggest film has been 007. That being Skyfall which made them the most money. As of the start of this week, that record was talking over by Spider-Man.
So why would you give up 50% of your ownership rights or even allow another studio cash in on 50% of your profit? Doesn’t make any sense. Think of it in terms of stock. The more stock you have in a company the more power you have in making choices.
For this reason alone, I agree with Sony saying no. First it was reported that they said flat out no. But updates have come out saying that Sony did offer a counter offer. No word on what that offer was but that Disney said no.
Here is the thing.
Does Disney Care about the MCU?
When you think about how Spider-Man Far From Home left, how big a part Spider-Man has been with the MCU. The things we could get. I mean there was a small tease with Spider-Man and Captain Marvel. While it wouldn’t be the romance that it was for a short time in the comics (age reasons) but I can see Captain Marvel being a part of Peters life and even playing into the space side of things.
Tony Stark and the Avengers. You have S.W.O.R.D., and then the one I wanted to see, Deadpool.
Now that is all out the window. Some have been saying that Sony still has to hold up to one more film which means Disney/Marvel would still make that 3rd Spider-Man film with Sony and get that 5%.
The Deal Ended Already
Everyone saying that we’re still gonna get another Spider-Man film under the old deal are wrong and doesn’t know the facts. First off, the deal as I said before was for 3 Marvel films and 2 Sony films.
Civil War was sort of an Avengers 2.5 film let’s be honest and then Infinity War and Endgame. Then for Sony, they made Homecoming and Far From Home.
That was it Spider-Man Leaves
Done deal, the contract or however the deal was put together between Disney and Sony was finished once Far From Home Came out. Now clearly, Marvel figured that while the deal was officially done and they would need to negotiate a new term going forward. I don’t think Marvel’s Kevin Feige thought the deal would end.
So much was set up in Far From Home. Not just from a point of view of Spider-Man’s world but the greater MCU. You have the legacy of Tony Stark, you have Stark Tech being a major part of Spider-Man, Shield in general and Spider-Man role with the Avenger.
Spider-Man Without Marvel
Let’s play a game. Let’s say, the deal doesn’t work out and Spider-Man officially leaves the hands of Marvel and Kevin Feige. What does that mean? Sure Sony can make a film with Venom and Spider-Man crossover now. They can tease it at the end of Venom 2. But here is the thing. Are they gonna keep the same actor in Tom Holland?
Reports are he and director Jon Watts are contracted to make 2 more Spider-Man films. So no reboots, but in a way, it will be a total reboot and I can almost tell you that most people who went and saw Homecoming and Far From Home, will HATE what comes after.
A Sony only Spider-man can’t do the following.
- No Avengers or other non-Spider-Man heroes.
- The Snap? That never happened.
- Can’t use Happy, SWORD or Skrulls
- No Tony Stark or his legacy.
That is just a small list of things Sony will not be able to have in their film. Because Marvel/Disney owns those rights. I question if Sony can even use the Spider-Man Suit design and if they can, they can’t even bring up the fact that it’s Stark Tech. Those glasses he got at the end? Nope. Can’t even talk about Shield or Nick Fury. So with the story in a place that was left at Far From home, you just removed almost 80% of the story elements and world.
Sure Spider-man can do just fine without those elements, we got 5 films beforehand just fine for the most part. But with Spider-Man’s world being mixed into the MCU in such a way, removing it out of the blue would more or less make it a reboot.
No more Kevin Feige
That all being said, if Kevin Feige isn’t gonna be a producer for the next Spider-Man film. If Marvel can’t use Spider-Man himself in their next Avengers or even any other crossover. The world of the MCU will be weird going forward. A void of what could have been will set in.
Going forward, Sony has to really think about this. Sure they could handle a Spider-Man universe, but losing all those elements of the MCU and the trust of the fans. Here is the thing. Spider-Man crossing over with Venom could be amazing. But knowing that anything MCU related will be removed just doesn’t sit well with me.
I’m not sure if I would even want to see another Spider-Man film made by Sony without Kevin Feige and Marvel. I’d be sad to not get to see Spider-Man part of the big crossover with the X-Men and Deadpool. I think Sony has to really think about this. This is where I think Disney knows. They know that fans and moviegoers will likely not go see another Spider-man film if it’s not part of the MCU.
Would you go watch the next Spider-man film if they just didn’t talk about what happens in Endgame? As if it never happened? What if they didn’t play off the whole Tony Stark legacy and bring in the Green Goblin and the story of Uncle Ben? What if they even went as far as to just ignore everything they did and did a full-on reboot again?
Ask yourself, if you would be okay with that. Do you think it’s good that Disney is more or less putting Sony in a corner? Yes, I wanna see Spider-Man say in the MCU. I want both Sony and Disney to make money. Because in the end, while people like Jon Watts, Kevin Feige, and even the actors wanna see those comic crossovers and the feeling of a real comic world come to life on the big screen.
We All Lose in the End
In the end, they have no say, the powers of Disney and those at Sony will have the final go. Heck, it was a dream to even get what we got with the last films featuring Spider-Man. I thought I’d never see Spider-Man fight Captain America. Let alone him flying around holding the infinity glove with the gems in hand. To stand next to Captain Marvel. A world with Thor, heck even Sheild.
Don’t forget that Shield was a big part of the Spider-Man story in current Spider-Man animated TV Show. We got spoiled and now it’s time to face the truth. Only one thing truly holds true, that money is the root of all evil. It’s the bottom line. That’s all they care about. I’m not shocked and it’s sad we live in such a world.